A conversation with Maggie Gilewicz…

I recently sat down for a cup of virtual coffee with the delightful Maggie Gilewicz, PhD for her ORDINARY PEOPLE, ORDINARY AWAKENINGS podcast. We talked for a couple of hours about my (long) spiritual journey, both before and after awakening, and discussed some of the misconceptions and challenges facing the spiritual seeker and awakened being alike. Hope you enjoy.

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